military tires

the goodyear 37 in the 16.5" flavor work decent. but they do make regular MTRs and even new tread pattern for them now. you can find them in surplus already.

Should we assume the tires would be double-beadlocked? I know 16.5" diameter wheels are notorious for losing inner beads when aired down. The design of the wheel is the cause. But if you lock the inside then it would be a moot point (like Stauns or something like that).

Staun beadlocks.

From what I know they are an internal beadlock style that squishes the bead against the rim from the inside with high airpressure from a belted innertube. They've been tested to not explode at over 160psi. You can run your tires with ZERO air pressure with these things.

http://www.staunproducts.com/beadlock.php
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4965
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums....php?p=5849634 looks like murfman on JU has ran them for 2 years and never had a problem.

The RTII tire is a bias ply. I would not plan on street driving them like you said. Even sitting over night they tend to get flat spots that ride like crap till you get them warm. I daily drive a HMMWV on base and the previous set of tires was the RTII so I have plenty of experience driving them. I never did any rock crawling with them but have had them on secondary roads and trails at some decent speeds. The nature of the tread pattern has good lateral stability but I don't think they would be the best in the rocks.

He's talking h1 wheels...no need for stauns as they're double beadlocks already.

Jason- from what I've seen look for the 'new' style tires or at the very least the radial version of the old one. My spare is an older one (but is a radial) and is rock hard. Look up 406yj on pirate...he does recentered h1's and sells surplus tires as well.

--Ian

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The RTII tire is a bias ply. I would not plan on street driving them like you said. Even sitting over night they tend to get flat spots that ride like crap till you get them warm. I daily drive a HMMWV on base and the previous set of tires was the RTII so I have plenty of experience driving them. I never did any rock crawling with them but have had them on secondary roads and trails at some decent speeds. The nature of the tread pattern has good lateral stability but I don't think they would be the best in the rocks.

There's also a radial version...there's one sitting in the bed of my truck as we speak. Still a hard compound and fairly noisy but better than the bias ones.

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The bias ones are the tires I was looking at. I found a great deal on some.
So are we saying their not worth entertaining a trial run?

The fact that they are loud and prone to flat spotting doesn't pertain to you. I doubt my bias ply Pitbulls are much better but (like you) they don't get any road miles so who cares.
There are some benefits to the bias ply tires but I'd be more worried about the hard tire compound that Ian mentioned. While designed for longevity, I'd expect them to suck on the rocks.

There is a difference in rims that are made for bias ply tires. Radial rims have a slight ridge just inside the rim for the bead to sit on. I think this is because radial side walls are not as stiff as bias side walls. Because of this, I've been told never to run radial tires on rims designed for bias tires. I'm not sure if the opposite is true.

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Im not worried about the tires, I just want to know if the stock rims will fit over my calipers.
they are the 8 bolt h1s

It may not be convenient for you, but you are welcome to stop by and test it on mine...

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There is a difference in rims that are made for bias ply tires. Radial rims have a slight ridge just inside the rim for the bead to sit on. I think this is because radial side walls are not as stiff as bias side walls. Because of this, I've been told never to run radial tires on rims designed for bias tires. I'm not sure if the opposite is true.

Where did you read/hear that? Ive been in the automotive for over 20 years and NEVER heard that. As for the difference in the rims I've also never noticed that. John not trying to argue just never heard either of those and have mounted radial tires on plenty of 50's,60's and early 70's cars/trucks that had the original rims with no problems.

I had a set of rims from a '60s CJ once and a friend of mine pointed it out to me. Also, those particular rims wouldn't fit over the disc brake calipers.

None of this matters, though, as you're running h1's and will (presumably) retain the insert....no issues w/ bead retention for either bias or radial.

As for caliper clearance: dunno on your axles as you're planning on running a new-ish front 60 and sterling rear, correct? You do need to verify that the 60 you got is in fact 8x6.5 and not the new funky metric bolt pattern like our super duties. I can confirm they clear the dual pistons on my 88-91.5 axle but hit my highsteer w/o spacers.

--Ian

my experience with these tires was wheelin with a guy who's tires actually pealed off the sidewall, looks like they where old?