Posts by whatevah

    Got the call yesterday from Brandywine on Kirkwood Hwy that they have the Gladiator in stock now.

    I'm sitting across the street at the firehouse, just saw it drive up. It's a black Rubicon. Looked cool! Will wander over later to have a peek.

    here's a handy spreadsheet showing the list and invoice pricing on the current options, so you can get a better idea of pricing. https://www.jeepgladiatorforum…lculator-worksheet.15009/


    Apparently EVO MFG got friendly with Jeep and they got access to a prerelease JT, as well as developing a lift kit for one of the concept rigs. The prerelease JT was a Sport model that they've installed a 6" lift, big axles, 40" tires, rack, tent, tire carrier, etc. It's a monster!


    first of the articles... https://www.tfltruck.com/2019/…62310-first-drive-review/


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    It’s to get down to the price. The 2020 Gladiator Sport 4×4 with a manual transmission starts at $33,545 before the $1,495 destination charge. This makes the total starting MSRP $35,040.
    These are the starting prices for all four trim levels of the Gladiator (all including the destination charge).

    • Gladiator Sport: $35,040
    • Gladiator Sport S: $38,240
    • Gladiator Overland: $41,790
    • Gladiator Rubicon: $45,040

    Pretty much where I expected it, actually a little less. I was figuring $44,450 for a Rubicon before delivery.

    Depends on the tire you want, sometimes you can get a better deal installed from a place like Delaware Tire Center in Newark that's a higher volume dealer... I'd start with http://www.tirerack.com (since you can pick up and save on shipping) and compare the prices vs local dealers.

    what problems are you having? You might just have a stuck caliper. I run upgraded pads and rotors on my Jeep to help counteract the weight. Slotted rotors make brake fade disappear. If you feel a vibration in your brake pedal, you likely have a warped rotor... that happens to stock vehicles, too. If you have to brake really hard, try to sit stopped at a red light, let the vehicle move a little up/back so the hot pad isn't sitting on spot on the rotor.

    I like how you're trying to justify buying a JT with math. Keep going...

    Gotta be honest, I'm really being torn between the JT Rubicon, the Ram Rebel and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon. All should be in the same price range for the options I'd want (I'm assuming a JT Rubi will start at $45,445 and be around $53k with options). But, the Rams are full-width and I've been used to driving a narrow XJ and the slightly-wider JK for the past 14 years. The Power Wagon is really heavy, gets 15mpg highway and doesn't have 4:1 low gear but does have a killer 6.4L HEMI, front and rear lockers, front swaybar disco and a winch. The Rebel only has a small lift and a rear locker, but gets better gas mileage from the smaller 5.7L HEMI and its measily 395HP. Would do a multi-mount winch if I end up with a Rebel.


    I really don't care too much about the open air, I use a hardtop because of the gear (medical and noisemakers) I usually have in my Jeep. The top usually only comes off for a week or two a year. The JT will already be too long for the blue/black trails I run at RC and AOAA, so I'm already planning on getting a beater CJ or YJ... so an even wider pickup wouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm just to the point in my life where a 4-door pickup would make things a lot easier for me. :\ But, then I wouldn't be in a Jeep for my daily driver and passing the hundreds of JKs and JLs every day would be pretty rough for a while. :) At any rate, I'm trying to hold off until next fall before buying anything.


    We're all still waiting on the pricing details to be released at the end of the month, along with the media embargo to be listed. So, not much in the way of news... All I've seen lately is a rumor floating around the JT factory about a ~7000 vehicle government order that will run before the dealer stocking orders. No details beyond that... just that a bunch of JTs are supposedly being ordered for unknown government agencies.


    The factory seems to be ready, the first production JT rolled off the line today... you may have already seen that on Facebook. :)

    I like it, 1160 lbs isn't going to cut it, though. It'd have to be an addition to the fleet, not a replacement for the truck.

    Exactly because this is a mid-size truck... aka a Dodge Dakota, Chevy Colorado, Toyota Tacoma, etc. It was never intended to be a work truck. Although, the sport model with the 1600/1535 available payload is pretty competitive with the other brands. I think that Sport "max tow" package with the 1535 payload and 7650 tow rating should be a pretty popular option, though.

    A random thought from my Jeep weight thread... My JK's payload is 700lbs (per door sticker), and since my JK is currently 200lbs+ overweight, the JT should be a safer and more reliable vehicle given that an automatic Rubicon will have a 1160lb payload. It'll definitely be overweight on trips, but not in daily use.

    I think my JK needs to go on a diet... did a landfill run today and my Jeep and empty harbor freight trailer weighed in at 5600lbs. The trailer should be around 300lbs empty, so that puts the Jeep around 5300lbs. Don't tell my insurance, but the door sticker says GVWR is only 5100! That was with a nearly-empty gas tank, but otherwise my normal daily load. I always have my fridge (lightly stocked with water and gatorade), recovery gear, med kit, traffic cones and a gerry can with oil dry. Plus front and rear steel bumpers, rocker guards, engine skid, winch, air compressor and tank. And 5 35" tires on alloy wheels.


    The door also says that the combined load of passengers and cargo should not exceed 700lbs. :doh:


    Has anybody else compared their rig's actual weight with the sticker GVWR?

    i wonder if its the clutch or strength of the 6spd that limits the tow capacity on the manual?

    I'd assume the clutch, but that's just a wild guess. I couldn't find any spec sheets for it (Aisin D478)... just one casual reference to 345 or 350ft-lb torque rating, which might just be from assuming the "478" is the Newton torque rating.

    A few pages back, I posted a spec sheet that includes the payload and tow ratings for the various configurations- https://www.delawareja.com/for…iator-specifications-pdf/ Took a screenshot and will attach the specs below.


    The manual trans JT is rated for either 4000 or 4500lbs (Sport/Overland vs Rubicon). With the auto you get 6000 or higher in all trim levels, that's more than most people will ever need behind a mid-sized truck.


    You can't compare a heavy full-size truck that's 6 years old with a new mid-sized pickup, that's not even apples to oranges. It seems like you're really not in the customer pool Jeep is building this for.


    just thinks a loaded Rubicon is what now around $60k, no discounts because its a jeep, a Ram cummins mega cab that will MSRP for $72k you can get for $62k because of truck rebates and dealer intensives. Who in their right mind would pay more for a Gasoline wrangler truck that has half the space and capability.

    That's a really good point, one that a lot of folks are contemplating in the JT forum. I looked at the Ram Rebel, the Power Wagon and even (gasp!) the Raptor but decided that their size and fuel costs (Raptor) will keep me in a Jeep. The TRDs are just too expensive and limited stock and the Colorado ZR2 is too limited on mods. The Gladiator is still the best option for the mid-size offroading/overlanding niche.

    Here's a photo showing the tape measure, but also shows a little of the "trail rail" tie down system. This will likely be available aftermarket, but if you order from the factory it'll include the power outlet.