Posts by turtle

    We need a few volunteers to help us with directing traffic for parking at the show and shine, if you could help for a bit at the start of the event it would be greatly appreciated. We will be there are our 10 so please see myself, Keith or Joel if you want to help

    I was pulled over in my old TJ when I ran 35s and wheel spacers. I only received a warning and was told if he saw me again like that he would ticket me and submit my inspection station to the state for inspecting it.


    In PA you can be ticketed for what is seemingly inspection issues. There were a bunch of MD guys who got ticketed for driving without doors near the York jeep show. I seem to remember them trying to fight the tickets without success.

    something has obviously changed with the forum as there are plenty of people who have responded to the threads we posted. Also looks like other people have started threads?

    Jeeps for Joy is scheduled to cook dinner at the Ronald McDonald house on Sunday Aug 17th. We will be purchasing and preparing all of the food for the house that evening. We usually keep the menu fairly simple as enough food is needed for 80 people. Dinner needs to be served at 5:30 so we generally arrive at about 3:00 to start cooking. We are limited to 12 persons in the kitchen and they must be over the age of 12 as long as they are with their parents. Please sign up below if you wish to help.. I know it is a long time out but I want to post up so this does not escape my selective memory


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    Jeeps for Joy is scheduled to cook dinner at the Ronald McDonald house on Sunday July 20. We will be purchasing and preparing all of the food for the house that evening. We usually keep the menu fairly simple as enough food is needed for 80 people. Dinner needs to be served at 5:30 so we generally arrive at about 3:00 to start cooking. We are limited to 12 persons in the kitchen and they must be over the age of 12 as long as they are with their parents. Please sign up below if you wish to help.. I know it is a long time out but I want to post up so this does not escape my selective memory


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    I think Subaru's depend on the tires.
    WRX's with summer tires in the snow = loser.
    WRX's with all-season = can do ok. I've yet to see an Impreza go up a hill on all-seasons from a stop.
    WRX with snow tires = pretty good. :up:


    I drove everywhere in the 2 20"+ storms we had a few years ago in my WRX with all seasons. only place I got stopped was an unplowed driveway that had a 3' drift in it .. My jeep on 37" tires stayed parked on the street

    The two of you had a first time driving in snow in your Jeep too. I was welcomed here as a new member and told "there are no dumb questions". Thank you to the rest of you for your nice replies and suggestions.


    May the fleas from a thousand camels infest your armpits to you Mr. Turtle and Mr. Jaytj01! :laughabove:


    Haha, funny just saw this.. yes everyone has their first time driving in the snow.. The "no dumb questions" thing is probably the worst thing that has ever been said as there are alot of really dumb questions.. Yours was not exactly a dumb question but was answered very well in the first couple posts so adding on and saying the exact same thing over and over again is pretty pointless.


    My point of view with snow storms is staying off the road is the best bet, it was not a comment specifically directed at you or the question you asked...


    As for your question about advice? the best thing to do is go to a parking lot and get comfortable with your vehicle. That is the absolute only way you will ever get to know how you and your vehicle reacts to snowy conditions.. People can tell you 1000 ways to drive safely in the snow but actually being in the vehicle getting wheel time and experiencing all the things that happen in snow/ice is the only way you will ever get better at drivng in it

    Automatic 4wd is only as good as the system. I'm sure Subaru has it nailed down pretty well but I had a Ford Explorer that would wait several rotations to kick into 4WD. It sucked in sand and snow. My Explorer sport track with dedicated 4WD however was the best vehicle I've ever driven.


    I disagree on the tall thing too. Having ground clearance in some of this deep snow we just had made all the difference.


    Having driven many jeeps and 2 subarus, I would 100% take the subaru for any on the road snow driving.. Lets face it unless you live in one of the developments in delaware where they never plow most roads are plowed with enough regularity that you do not need the excessive ground clearance of a jeep.. Stability is a huge + when driving in the snow/ice and having a top heavy tall vehicle does not lend to stability..

    The JK is not alot of fun in the snow.. stupid ESP truly is a buzz kill when all of a sudden you just loose all momentum... It is 1000 x's better than my TJ, nothing better than going into a turn and you keep turning the steering wheel but the jeep keeps going straight.. I guess the JK is heavy enough and long enough to keep it from turning into a plow when turning


    I just ask for one thing from all drivers (not jeepers). If you cant do the speed limit or for example yesterday, if you can only go 25 on the highway, please stay to the right and allow drivers that are equiped and experienced pass.
    It took me 2 hours to get home last night, not because of the conditions but because of 2wd cars plugging up the left lane for what reason I have no idea. O and also 2wd cars attempting to go up large hills, for example the bridge on 95 in philly past the stadiums. If you dont have a 4x4 then you should have a flat route home mapped out, it may be out of the way but it beats sitting in one place because your stuck.
    That being said, Jeeps may be one of the best vehicles to drive in snow. Good luck to the new snow goers! I hope you are now impressed with your vehicle for being so capable in the elements. :up:


    I totally disagree, jeeps are probably the worst 4wd vehicle in the snow.. they are tall and have wide tires which is a no-no for snow.. the ideal vehicle is AWD like a subaru with snow tires... When i had my WRX I would not even start my jeep in a snow storm..