I need to get a front driveshaft from the junkyard, and it has to come from a Cherokee with an AW4 trans.
Talked to junkyard and they have a few shafts but they're already pulled. Is there any way I can tell if it's the one I need other than putting it in and seeing if it is?
When I called them I only knew it had to come from auto trans, not a specific one. Hopefully if I specify trans they are able to get me the right one
Changing subject of this to: sure could use SYE help
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Scratch that the write up I was reading was with NP242 and 8.25 rear. I've done endless research on what I'm doing (RE SYE, and xj front driveshaft) and there are no cut and dry write ups I've found
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Instead of starting a new thread and crowding up the forum I'll just ask this here. I've done a lot of research online about this and am just not coming up with black and white info. I'm wondering has anyone on here actually done this and have experience with it
What I've have:
96 xj 4.0, auto trans, NP231 tcase
What I've done:
RC 4.5" x-series suspension lift
What I need to do:
SYE (duh)
How I wanna go about it:
RE SYE part# re1807 (already have it) hack n tap style sye
Xj front driveshaft
I read I need spicer part # 211229X to mate shaft with syeSo long as I'm right about all that, what I need help with is does ANYONE know for sure the specifics of the driveshaft. Such as what trans/tcase it needs to come from. Does it matter the year? Anything?
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I have no experience with the hack-n-tap SYE kits, but with a traditional SYE the stock front driveshaft from a 6cyl with auto trans will work for a rear shaft with about that much lift. It's been a long time since since my Jeep was that size, though. Now that my old XJ is on longarms and 7" I needed something with longer splines so I ordered heavy duty shafts from Tom Woods and CJ Tatton. Fwiw, the last time I measured it, the rear measurement was 32.5" on level ground. Stock 1989-2001 rear 6cyl auto front shaft has a compressed length of 30.6". 89-01 6cyl manual shaft is 29.250. The 4cyl shafts are 3-5" shorter depending on year and trans so they won't even be close.
If you get one from a scrap yard, make sure that the splines are not seized. If they're stuck, the shaft is useless and it'll be cheaper to buy a new one online than to buy it and then get it rebuilt.
Here are the XJ/ZJ front driveshaft (compressed) lengths, from the Spicer catalog.
XJ 87/88 2.5 Automatic 27.950 53003912
XJ 89/93 2.5 Automatic 27.970 53005540
XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541
XJ 89/01 4.0 Automatic 30.660 53005542
XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543
XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544
XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545
XJ 87/88 4.0 Automatic Export 53005260 *
XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341
ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427
ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805
ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790
ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344
ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805
ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090
ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427
ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707
ZJ 96/97 4.0 Automatic 31.250 52098850
ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 30.750 w/ 249 & Model 30 52099246
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.500 w/ 249 52099260 -
Perhaps the hack n tap is making up for that difference in length? I'm assuming that with all that info on shaft lengths I can install the sye, measure as if I were finding length to order new cv shaft and buy the front shaft that closest fits my measurement
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I've also read that it doesn't work with a d35. Maybe I'll install my sye and see if my front shaft works, if so I'll be 2wd til I pick up another. If not I'll be 0wd til I order a cv
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I really have no idea what the measurement changes are for a hack-n-tap vs a traditional SYE, sorry... The good news is that you can install the SYE and then get the measurement you'll need for an installed length go from there. 1995+ XJs are safe to drive in 4hi without a rear shaft. They have a different output shaft seal so they won't leak like older models did. Get it installed, then measure from where the center of the ujoint caps would be (to make it easier, to the surface where the ujoint strap will touch on the yoke). Subtract 1.5" from that for safety and that's your compressed length.
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Yea I was trying to go into it prepared to be finished that day.. Wait, when has that ever happened with a jeep?!?!
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I have used several xj front sdrive shafts for the reardriveshaft imy old yj
I have found two typs
solid bar and tube
you want the tube type with the cv joinit coming out of the front of the transfercast
lI had mine shortened to my neds -
not to confuse but you can also pick up a jeep np208
it is stronger than the 231 and has a sye from the factory
you find them tn yhe old
grand waggoneers
they could handle the v8 power
some skid plate/ mount fabraction needs to be don't to provide clearance for the larger case
it was a fun mod for me
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Thanks that's something I may look into as a future mod. Picked up a shaft probably gonna do everything next weekend
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Picked up a shaft probably gonna do everything next weekendI'm curious to see how this turns out for you as well... I hope it turns out okay!
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I will keep you guys posted
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