Paragon

Just a suggestion, can you post what level trails you are considering running?

Don't count me out yet. I just may be able to pull this out of my hat. I still haven't unloaded mine off the trailer from last weekend and my wife said she don't care. I just have to figure out what " I don't care " means. Does she REALLY mean I don't care or does she mean You'll pay later.

I'll keep you informed.

trail difficulty ratings... green (stock), blue (stupid stockers or lifted), black (lifted with a locker), red (dual lockers and disreguard for body damage)

that's just a general way of looking at it. depending on your skill, the skill of your spotter, and the trail itself, you could probably do some low blacks without a locked axle. you'll just spend a little more time trying.

your rig sounds about right for blues and maybe a low black. a TJ with your lift setup ran a low black trail at Rausch Creek on Saturday. my stock XJ almost made it, but I got stuck in a rut.

oh, and you'll probably need skid plates. got any?

yes a stock rubi can handle parts of paragon......no all of it but most of the blues and maybe a low black......paragon is in hazleton, PA
http://www.paragonap.com <------check it out

Please keep in mind that "stock" and "modified" refer to the vehicles. Drivers are another story. An experienced driver can successfully negotiate a black level trail in a stock jeep; an inexperienced driver can just as easily get a well-modified jeep stuck and/or damaged on a green level trail.

You have not mentioned your experience on the trails. Considering this, I would suggest that you do not attempt to run trails over a blue level, especially since you are not experienced with the trails.

Just my .02.

Edit... also, if you have not been to Paragon before, please be aware that you will need to have an "trained" guide to take a group out. You can get "trained" by viewing a 30-minute videotape at the check-in trailer. They don't run it all the time, so call ahead to be sure that you get there in time to participate. Please check out all the vehicle requirements on the Paragon web site. If you plan to have passengers under the age of 18, you must bring a waiver for each, signed by a parent and notarized. If you do not have this, even if they are your kids, they will not be allowed on the trails. Again, check out the web site or call for details.

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I'm new at this, not afraid to admit that. I've had jeeps for along time but mostly just played in the mud. I have been looking into the trail rides and just looks like alot of fun. Met a guy from the club at the beach a couple of weeks ago and he told me about the rides. So any help if I do go would be greatly appreciated. I still have to eqip a little better, jack, straps, chain, etc.

Rubicon's are awesome vehicles right out of the box. Join us on a DeJA trail ride, we'll help you get to know what you can do with it, and how to do it safely. We're always happy to have newbies come along...

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We're always happy to have newbies come along...

I'll vouge ( or however you spell it) for this...

I'm also trained for guiding up there. Dave whats the chances of hitting RC instead. Only reason I'm saying that is its much closer and I know a certain Landrover that may join us if we go there.

let me know