i did alot of lookin at long arms before i ordered my lift. if you want to keep your springs then you can always buy a long arm upgrade kit from RE but they seem to hang down alot more than lot of the other brands. Clayton hard arms seem to be a very nice kit and you can get just thier long arm upgrade for like 1499 off their web site claytonoffroad.com i think it is. toys by troy also makes long arm kits that seem pretty nice, didnt look at them much though. cant really take all the credit for knowing this...got all my "ideas" from quadna... 
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Andrew, I'd say get the best you can afford. Being a CJ guy I don't know the long arm market (let alone TJ) but even though the Claytons are overkill for what you want now, it would be one less thing you have to worry about. As long as the price comparison was reasonable of course.
Quote from "jeeprubicon"whats a 3.5 RE sprung long arm gonna loook like with 33's?
thats what i was worried about too, and why i didnt get them. i was looking on the RE web site at the pics they have on there and it looks like you lose a little clearance with their mounting plate since you have to use their cross member (the arms mount there) thats just my opinion though, i decided that ill wait until i go over 4 in of lift before i go long arms just my two cents 
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I ran the RK kit with 3.5" RE springs, With the 3.5" springs, the arms were drawn all the way in, and it still wasn't quite "right" They really needed more adjustment to make them shorter.
Another thing to think of is with 33's you overall arm clearance will be much better with short arms. Is their a particular reason you want to go with long arms?? Knowing how my 3.5" coils rode with RE arms front/ rear uppers and lowers, I really regret changing to the long arm kit. It actually rode better with the RE arms than the RK "kit".
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As far as wheeling, short arms are better in some situations. I just loved my on-road ride with my RE 3.5" short arm kit but if you are in need of upgrading all the arms, then the RK kit is not a bad way to go. The newer joints willl last much longer than mine did and te new rear bushings they use are much better than the old ones. RK had a terrible reputation a few years ago but they are one of the few companies that actively upgrades their products on a regular basis. In the 3 yrs I have followed them, they have had 4 incarnations of their long arms and the x-factor kit is a really good kit. If I were to buy rockkrawler again that is the kit I would get. You are looking at $1300 to your door for it.
If you can hold out for a little bit longer, we will be down in lewes w/ both jeeps. you can drive them both and see if it's worth it.
THe regular RK kit has the brackets sandwiched between the x-case skid and the frame. The bracket also needs to be welded to the frame. You need to drill 4 holes in the drivers side frame rail for the front upper torque arm mount. Other than that their is no drilling. The x-factor t-case skid bolts to the stock holes and I am pretty sure no drilling is involved other than the torque arm.
In the topic, you had asked about long arms, but said that a Clayton kit was too much. In what respect? If you do decide to go with a LA upgrade give me a shout as we offer Clayton kits at the maximum discount we are allowed by Clayton.
Quote from "zachv"In the topic, you had asked about long arms, but said that a Clayton kit was too much. In what respect? If you do decide to go with a LA upgrade give me a shout as we offer Clayton kits at the maximum discount we are allowed by Clayton.
Yes, guys, Zach quoted me a cheap price than Clayton did himself and look where i work ... 
Quote from "jeeprubicon"i just think they would be overkill for what little i do
Didn't know there was such a thing as overkill in the jeeping world :wink:
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