TheMistaken's D60 Buildup/Install

    Quote from clendaniel


    Ed- Random question...did you do the ORO uturn at the same time as the durango box by chance?


    --Ian


    Yes I did, why whats up?


    I found a puller on ebay that is like a normal bearing puller but they supply pieces that go over the ends of the carrier for the center pus rod thing to prush against... Here is a link... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors…torsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools


    I do not think that a carrier with ring gear will fit between the platform bars of my press. I suppose I could always make something to make a seperator work. I use seperators for the pinion bearings...

    Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-Frederic Bastiat

    Quote from TheMistaken


    Yes I did, why whats up?


    Not that any of it really matters now as your steering will change w/ the 60's but...


    Because I don't think it was the Durango box that was causing you to 'lose' steering. I was going through my old pics and found a few from when I was complaining of lost steering w/ my uturn setup and remembered that I didn't hit the stops w/ it using a _factory_ steering box.


    Here you can see it's about a 1/4" off the stop at full left:



    and here at the same full left you can see how far the tire was off the lower control arm vs. the marks where it had rubbed the paint off w/ the factory steering:



    look familiar?


    I guarantee that the rest of the loss in steering is due to the scrubbing as the ackerman angle is all out of whack w/ the ORO setup. It's a good 'compromise' but IMHO nowhere near perfect. I commend Steve from ORO though as I discussed it with him and he allowed me to return it for full credit when I purchased my Swayloc (now there's a product I'm 110% satisfied w/)


    --Ian

    Maybe I should have been a little more clear. I ran both at the same time, but I did the box first. With a stock pitman arm and draglink, the steering would hit the box. It was a hard stop and the box would do the "whine" sound. But even with draglink disconnected, it would only steer the same amount. I am getting all of that stops machined out anyway. We will see. The steering is that last thing I am going to deal with. I have been talking with Trevor from WFO and trying to get what I exactly need. We have been discussing the benefits of TRE over Heims and so on... We will see. I am going to get the lockers and gears all situated before all of that.

    Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-Frederic Bastiat

    Quote from TheMistaken


    Maybe I should have been a little more clear. I ran both at the same time, but I did the box first. With a stock pitman arm and draglink, the steering would hit the box. It was a hard stop and the box would do the "whine" sound. But even with draglink disconnected, it would only steer the same amount. I am getting all of that stops machined out anyway. We will see. The steering is that last thing I am going to deal with. I have been talking with Trevor from WFO and trying to get what I exactly need. We have been discussing the benefits of TRE over Heims and so on... We will see. I am going to get the lockers and gears all situated before all of that.


    :up: :up: Ahh...just thought about what you described when I saw those pics.


    WFO makes good stuff, that's where my arms and TR/DL came from.


    --Ian

    I have started to receiving parts. Putting them on as they come...


    Housings all bare. Knuckles are still on the front and the brakes are on the rear. I got tired of taking crap off... They will come off once the brackets are done.


    Rear truss on centered on the axle and set at 0* with the pinion set to 18* (a little less then my 8.8, but I can always adjust the pinion up or down depending)


    Now before I start blasitng these front brackets on, what did you guys set your front pinion angles to? I was going to replicate the stock 10* or so, but was not too sure. I have the cast wedge for the stock leaf spring on the housing. With that at 0* the pinion is around 11*. Would that be fine? I just do not want to screw up the steering, and with my luck I would. Here is a pick of one of the front uppers just tacked in place.

    Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-Frederic Bastiat

    With the stock leaf spring wedge on the diff, that being at 0* should put me about the stock caster right? What should I do, tack a piece of flat to the "C" and measure the caster there? I was told that the stock caster is about 5.5* positive. Would that be correct? That would mean the upper portion on the "C" would stick out 5.5* correct? This is my first front build... I just need to get the caster set before Friday. HAHA


    I think i am going to take a piece of flat stock, line it up to the centers of the king pin holes, tack it, and measure it from there. Sound right?

    Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-Frederic Bastiat

    Edited once, last by TheMistaken ().

    So taking off the knuckles...


    There is the king pin plate on the underside of the knuckle that has 4 bolts in it... For starters 2 bolts on one side and 1 bolt on the other side broke without hesitation. Not a problem I am sure I can get them out of the knucle once I remove this plate. If not, I gues i will be buying some new knuckles. I was going to end up crossing this bridge soon enough anyway. However, now i cannot get these damn plates off. I was being all gentle at first, but then started to get angered and just began to wack the hell out of them with a mini-sledge. There were many different attempts in between the two though... Really really starting to irritate me... Is there a trick to get these off or what? I am about to take my impact hammer/chisel to them...

    Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-Frederic Bastiat

    So who wants to trade me a set of brand new 39" red label krawlers for a few bucks and some 37" DOT Krawlers

    Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-Frederic Bastiat

    Your probably on the wrong board for that trade :laughabove:

    Former V.P. (2006-2007)
    V.P. of Jeeps for Joy (2004-2010)
    President of Jeeps for Joy (2010-2012)
    Beater Build Winning Driver (2009)

    Quote from TheMistaken


    So who wants to trade me a set of brand new 39" red label krawlers for a few bucks and some 37" DOT Krawlers


    Want some 33's? :innocent:

    1997 TJ 4 banger 5 speed, 4.88&#039;s, detroit tru track in the front d30, RE 3.5,OME shocks, JKS 1.25&quot; BL, 33&quot; BFG A/T&#039;s, Llama bumpers tire carrier, Hi lift

    lmao :spinrhead:


    just make sure blaines an accomplished driver and doesn't get stuck out yonder of dover on some rocks trying to show off and have call me at midnight..(cough cough) :help:

    1997 TJ 4 banger 5 speed, 4.88&#039;s, detroit tru track in the front d30, RE 3.5,OME shocks, JKS 1.25&quot; BL, 33&quot; BFG A/T&#039;s, Llama bumpers tire carrier, Hi lift

    Edited once, last by slick ().

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